tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post3880397800622664313..comments2023-08-17T09:48:01.705-06:00Comments on The Mother Load: Frozen's Gay Agenda? The "Well-Behaved" Mormon Woman Does Not Speak for MeSarah Braudaway-Clarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14454223032234785781noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-79400856582885946782014-02-26T09:40:33.561-07:002014-02-26T09:40:33.561-07:00Sarah, I read what that crazy lady wrote and I wan...Sarah, I read what that crazy lady wrote and I wanted to comment and say, "What?????" There is something really wrong with her. I wonder what she makes of C.S.Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia where there really are Christian messages in subtexts. <br /><br />I have been LDS since 1981 and I guess I have been sheltered from that kind of crazy. She so is not speaking for me. How dare she say she is? <br /><br />I wouldn't even presume to speak for all LDS members or that I know LDS doctrine well enough to speak for everyone. <br /><br />Actually, as you know I am somewhat of a rebel. At my ward here, I have not been given a teaching calling in the 8 years I've been here. But I still get to talk in classes and speak up for people who are too afraid to share (probably because they have met with people like the non-anti-anti gay lady).<br /><br />Thanks for opening my eyes. Next time just send me an apple. :)<br /> Ann Mullenhttp://media-ann-such.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-71355489035095948682014-02-20T01:41:12.883-07:002014-02-20T01:41:12.883-07:00Fantastic article! As an English Mormon i find art...Fantastic article! As an English Mormon i find articles like the one you have written about utterly disturbing to the point of being hillarious. More people like you are needed in America to counter the weird scaremongering bigotry (we have it in England too of course but it usually tends to the less extream)<br />I do hate sentences that begin 'i have nothing againsed gay people but...' followed by very homophobic comments. Well behave mormon women certainly does no speak for me either.<br />xxJRHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13226709228272935871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-12893379351177339692014-02-19T21:15:52.376-07:002014-02-19T21:15:52.376-07:00I am neither gay nor LDS and certainly not a woman...I am neither gay nor LDS and certainly not a woman but I admire your ability to rise above the convention of ignorance about gender issues and particularly to understand homophobia when you see it--and it was certainly present in abundance in the article you reviewed--Stay true to your compass--GaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-5532693709120683172014-02-19T17:10:38.875-07:002014-02-19T17:10:38.875-07:00Asmith, thank you for providing such a great examp...Asmith, thank you for providing such a great example of "nice" being prized over "kind." You are unhappy me for telling the truth, just because the truth happens to be "negative?" It's not my job to be positive about a church that has *officially* worked against the rights of gay people, whether soliciting donations for the Prop 8 campaign in California or attaching its names to amicus briefs against gay marriage in court cases. That is anti-gay. You can also call it "defense of traditional marriage," and try to sugar coat it by claiming to love gay people, but they still are anti-gay actions that attempt to deny rights and acknowledgement of gay families. There is no way around that. <br /><br />I don't believe *all* Mormons pile on to these injuries individually. Many of my LDS friends disagree with the church's actions against same-sex marriage. But the Mormons around me who DO advocate injury to gay people (in the form of rights deprivation) invariably try to soften the hostility of their position with a disclaimer about how much they love gay people, as if that somehow makes the actions less injurious. It's total doublespeak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-20797301711531450312014-02-19T13:58:25.100-07:002014-02-19T13:58:25.100-07:00THANK YOU for this explanation. I completely disag...THANK YOU for this explanation. I completely disagreed with the "Well Behaved Mormon Woman" and I had a pit in my stomach after reading her article. I can't stand being religiously associated with people like that! I agree with you. Even if the song was promoting a gay agenda, it would be a good thing. I never want my children to feel the need to hide who they are! LOVING other is one of the greatest commandments! To me that was the main point of this movie.Anna K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06825114539641019541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-3749330993400159732014-02-19T12:59:50.203-07:002014-02-19T12:59:50.203-07:00Anonymous, you just did what Skaggs did. You grou...Anonymous, you just did what Skaggs did. You grouped Mormons into one lump sum, and in a negative manner. Though I agree that she doesn't speak for all Mormons and that every person should have their own take on the movie, "we" as members of the LDS religion are not anti-gay....As you say. Do we believe that lifestyle is contrary to the Lord's teachings, yes. But we have always been counseled to live everyone. You can love a person and not agree with their lifestyle. It's that way no matter what lifestyle a person chooses. We have always been told to have outstretched arms to everyone. I have family members that are gay, and I love them the same as others even though I disagree with that aspect of their lives. But that is their choice and it is not my place to judge, just ton love. Just like every human on this earth....no one is perfect, neither are those of the LDS faith. Everyone errors and some judge or even try to speak for everyone else. This does not mean that they are the majority or even that it is what the LDS religion is about.Asmithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-29273762574736409792014-02-19T12:18:56.324-07:002014-02-19T12:18:56.324-07:00I haven't yet read Skaggs' blog post, but ...I haven't yet read Skaggs' blog post, but I did read this post a while ago on another website: <a href="http://vraikaiser.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/frozen-and-queer-storytelling/" rel="nofollow">Frozen and Queer Storytelling</a>.<br /><br />Interestingly enough, this is written from a gay person's perspective. <br /><br />I really have no opinion on the matter because I haven't seen Frozen yet, but people certainly are talking about it!catanihttp://thatgoodpart.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-14504702839704682362014-02-19T12:01:30.668-07:002014-02-19T12:01:30.668-07:00Thank you for taking a stand against the fake-nice...Thank you for taking a stand against the fake-nice attitude toward gay people. The whole "I'm not against gays, I just think they are sinful and shouldn't have rights" thing drives me crazy. I live in Utah, and I hear this all the time as the Mormons around me attempt to legislate their anti-gay attitudes. I wish more Mormons would call out this dishonesty. There is no "love the sinner" in taking away people's rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-45223495958586286202014-02-19T09:03:05.307-07:002014-02-19T09:03:05.307-07:00thank youthank youCarryOnSUDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11925418431618513142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-602944207795265692014-02-19T02:55:59.189-07:002014-02-19T02:55:59.189-07:00I found this post from another website. So very we...I found this post from another website. So very well-written. I did read the blog post you refer to here and I was appalled at somebody being so close minded. Holy cow! She must be miserable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-4029607160424493722014-02-18T23:44:01.421-07:002014-02-18T23:44:01.421-07:00http://www.livinginlilliput.com/2014/02/chill-out-...http://www.livinginlilliput.com/2014/02/chill-out-about-frozen-my-humble.html?m=1<br />Another awesome response to the woman that calls herself a Mormon. People are stupid. The real issue is we are giving this Kathryn woman the attention and page views that you know she wanted! Good post. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-31426878643758483872014-02-18T21:03:05.411-07:002014-02-18T21:03:05.411-07:00This woman gives the LDS church a bad name. I'...This woman gives the LDS church a bad name. I'm a teenager in the LDS church. I express my faith on my blog as well, but this is taking it too far. This is so wrong that she would try to corrupt the minds of people into turning Disney into the bad guy. Just because Disney supports gays doesn't mean you have to bash them for it. And that's not even what frozens about! Everyone in frozen is straight. STRAIGHT. People like you are the reason members of the gay community don't accept our church. You should be ashamed.Marybethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04215496613300308166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-39881662311793641982014-02-18T21:01:53.768-07:002014-02-18T21:01:53.768-07:00I had never heard of Ms. Skaggs... she certainly d...I had never heard of Ms. Skaggs... she certainly does not talk for me,I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself. My thoughts about gays &/or straights 'sleeping together' outside of church-sanctioned marriage is clear to me. That does not mean I "judge" anyone's choices. I go to movies to be entertained; I don't care about alleged hidden messages.Memory Keeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564305804843554194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-61708244470290156402014-02-18T19:35:16.356-07:002014-02-18T19:35:16.356-07:00Thank you! I'm sad to think Skaggs thinks she ...Thank you! I'm sad to think Skaggs thinks she represents me in any way. I'm for marriage equality, and my hope is that our church will catch up. Christ like love is for everyone, not just a private club of self-righteous people. We can do better.sallgoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06257935141857664852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-22754575876235105972014-02-18T19:06:47.216-07:002014-02-18T19:06:47.216-07:00I have stewed over Kathyrn Skaggs' post all da...I have stewed over Kathyrn Skaggs' post all day, trying to find the right words to express my utter disbelief over her candy coated bigotry. You nailed it. Thank you.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582144016533287896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-3156365471709439582014-02-18T17:59:16.200-07:002014-02-18T17:59:16.200-07:00Thank you. Just thank you.Thank you. Just thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-19674498513834971162014-02-18T17:13:39.853-07:002014-02-18T17:13:39.853-07:00Thank you so much for this post. I read Skaggs pos...Thank you so much for this post. I read Skaggs post and was so embarrassed and ashamed that there are people out there that are going to read that and believe that that is what "we" as Mormon women believe. She is not my voice and she does not speak for me either. I've been formulating a response to her all day (not that she is allowing anyone to comment unless they agree with her), and I really appreciate what you said and how you said it. Beautiful! Thank you!!!Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08543414043230728732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-21148407467198677282014-02-18T17:11:23.414-07:002014-02-18T17:11:23.414-07:00Thank you. I read the post by Skaggs and it upset ...Thank you. I read the post by Skaggs and it upset me in so many ways, the first being that as a person who was raised Mormon (don't currently practice for various reasons, but hold similar values). I was offended by her audacity at assuming that she can speak for all mormon women/parents. second, it was just a plain ignorant post. I appreciate your reaction because it was not accusatory. thank you for putting this side out there. abbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530638198896007203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-87890129861109426972014-02-18T16:53:51.040-07:002014-02-18T16:53:51.040-07:00Beautiful. There Is Common Sense Out There!Beautiful. There Is Common Sense Out There!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744364150768281004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-86766776950234290162014-02-18T16:45:39.373-07:002014-02-18T16:45:39.373-07:00This article was great! I know everybody has their...This article was great! I know everybody has their own interpretations of movies, but it bothers me that somebody sees this very well created, kid-loveable movie as a work of "poisoning" innocent children's mind's. Thank you for writing a great defense for "Frozen"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-32079692006068257332014-02-18T15:33:20.358-07:002014-02-18T15:33:20.358-07:00Thanks for a great response to Well-Behaved Mormon...Thanks for a great response to Well-Behaved Mormon Woman. I think much of her angst comes her own lesbian daughter (I'm not outing anyone, the daughter has a website where she explains herself). The daughter is mormon, married (to a man), and gay. You can read her story in the "about" section of her site. I'm guessing her mom writes WBMW in order to publicly push her position.<br /><br />http://mormonsandgaysforefront.com/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16466731819189287586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-24869253154452034992014-02-18T15:26:42.044-07:002014-02-18T15:26:42.044-07:00Thanks for a great response to Well-Behaved Mormon...Thanks for a great response to Well-Behaved Mormon Woman. I think she writes her column to vent publicly against her daughter . . . who is lesbian (and mormon and married to a man). The daughter has an interesting site, you in the "about" section talks about coming out publicly in the ward she grew up in, so I'm guessing that's WBMW's ward. Apparently Kathleen let her daughter watch too much Disney growing up!<br /><br />http://mormonsandgaysforefront.com/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16466731819189287586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-78273353681253616752014-02-18T13:27:21.539-07:002014-02-18T13:27:21.539-07:00I'd say it's pretty obvious that her views...I'd say it's pretty obvious that her views are extreme. That's how you get traction nowadays, anyway. Be extreme so that others can look at you and feel enlightened by comparison.Greg Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423674727626416220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-22280449277061434852014-02-18T12:42:33.694-07:002014-02-18T12:42:33.694-07:00Thank you so much for this! As a Utah Mormon woman...Thank you so much for this! As a Utah Mormon woman, I do not appreciate the light Ms. Skaggs shines on us. She DOES NOT speak for us, yes acts like she does. And it's frustrating to see that there are people out there that think the world is out to stomp on our beliefs. And I appreciate that you mentioned teen suicide rates. I work in the medical field and it is so disheartening to see how many teens we get a week in the ER for attempted suicide, all suffering from some sort of struggle ie. anxiety, depression, fear of what parent will think of them, whatever it may be. Where is the Christlike love?! Christ would not ostracize anyone...so why are we?! I'm so glad there are more people out there willing to say "not all Mormons are haters!" Erin Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05327497158776873420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1422575914712503408.post-74673277902339465902014-02-18T12:33:55.432-07:002014-02-18T12:33:55.432-07:00Your post was very refreshing to read after I read...Your post was very refreshing to read after I read what the "Well-Behaved" Mormon Woman wrote. I was appalled and saddened to read her words and I am ashamed of her self-righteous attitude. I hope to never meet the woman, people like her are one of the reasons that I find myself further and further away from the Mormon religion I was raised in. Busy Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09879288046906915472noreply@blogger.com